Justice committee  Yes, I think so. The intentional transmission, as I said earlier, after every other public health approach has been exhausted. We've been most successful in addressing challenges with disclosure when we've collaborated with public health units as an organization, and been able to

Justice committee  Five days a week.

Justice committee  I think there's a strong belief among many of the folks we work with. We try to educate folks as much as possible about the often-changing nature of the law in this area. We try to work with them to deepen their understanding, but folks are walking around with so many assumptions

Justice committee  Yes, absolutely. We do know there are a good number of folks who are HIV-positive and are not diagnosed. Increased access to testing absolutely supports our work in this area. We want to really get people engaged in something called the cascade. We want to get people diagnosed.

Justice committee  I'd say two things. Reckless behaviour that's demonstrated to be repeated and intentional after all other public health approaches have been exhausted seems like an appropriate approach.

Justice committee  I would also say that I've worked with hundreds of black people who are living with HIV over my career at Black CAP, and one of the biggest concerns of the folks who I've worked with is transmission to a negative partner. Folks living with HIV are often framed as reckless and det

Justice committee  I really concur with the other witness on this issue. I don't know that I could say too much more than that.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  It absolutely does. There's no doubt about that.

Justice committee  People living with HIV?

Justice committee  Probably 20 to 30.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  It's probably 100% for those who are aware of the criminal—

Justice committee  Yes, it absolutely deters people from testing.

Justice committee  Yes.