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Public Accounts committee  We obviously don't control the standards of the municipal agencies. However, they often come to us when we are rolling out new equipment. When we hear of new technology they are using, we are sharing that technology. I know that in some of the provinces, they're looking at provi

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  I will comment that sometimes it's not a question of having the equipment or the uniform; sometimes it's a personal preference on what type of uniform they have. In the Lower Mainland, in particular, many of the individuals buy their own pants, because they don't like the issued

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  We took the steps that we felt were needed, first of all, to procure and deploy the carbines as per our risk assessment. Obviously, referring to the case of Moncton, there were gaps in that. We admit that there were gaps in that and are trying to figure out how to do that better,

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  As Deputy Commissioner Brennan referred to earlier, we have improved on our tracking for the equipment. It's a little more problematic with hard body armour versus a carbine because it's not serial numbered, but we are ensuring that the numbers are tracked on the system.

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  Thank you for that question. We're always looking at technology. One thing I can say is that part of vision 150 is getting better business intelligence within the RCMP. We have a lot of databases, but often we can't do the analytics. We need to get better at that. With equipmen

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  Yes, we obviously have multiple planning sections depending on what we're dealing with, but when we go into equipment, there's a robust plan as to what's next in line for equipment. Then we do a lot of testing of that equipment. We have to do a lot of consultation with our contra

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  We could not deploy 100% to every single member. With 20,000 members, we could not deploy 20,000 hard body armour nor the carbines at 100% of the need because of the amount that it took. We had to do it in segments. Maybe I could get Mr. Watters to explain that process because,

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  An active shooter situation can happen anywhere. To say that we knew what was going to happen in Moncton.... We didn't know that was going to happen in Moncton. We tried to ensure that when we did the deployment we could get as much of that type of equipment out to as many people

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  With the carbine, it's a single source. It wouldn't have changed. Once we determined which carbine we were purchasing, it wouldn't change anything, because we could only buy it from one source. We could only afford so many at a time, so we could only purchase as much as we could

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  Yes, absolutely. Again, some of it was based on the geography. I'll use Manitoba as an example. There are 23 detachments that are all very far north, and seven of them are fly-in only. It takes a little longer for them to have backup in a big incident because we don't drive to th

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  First, everything that gets reviewed always gets improved. If we were to say that something was perfect, then I think our organization would be naive. Even today, if we were to re-review.... Given the evolution of policing and how the dynamics change so often, we always have to b

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  Our eventual goal is to ensure that they are issued to—assigned, we say—each member. That's our goal. Right now, we ensure that they're in the vehicles so that they have access to that equipment when they go out on calls. Unfortunately, we have a lot of attrition, too, so it sort

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  We have three long guns: shot guns, rifles and carbines. We're actually doing a study on whether we need all three. Each one serves a different purpose, depending on the type of policing and the rural environments. Do we have enough of each? We are studying that, but for the time

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  They would report to deputy commissioner Brian Brennan as part of community and indigenous policing. Brian is in charge of the critical incident program, as well as reviewing any type of equipment, looking at new equipment and testing. For example, we're in the midst of evergreen

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki

Public Accounts committee  I haven't received any reports of missing carbines. A lot of the side arms, for example, will go into our armour shop and they'll be accounted for there. They may not be accounted for outside of that environment. I haven't received any reports of a—

May 16th, 2019Committee meeting

Commr Brenda Lucki