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Public Safety committee  Ms. Lambropoulos, I think you're raising the $64,000 question: What is the appropriate balance between free speech and when that free speech crosses a line and becomes something else? It's not something the committee examined in terms of what's the remedy or what's the recommenda

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  This issue wasn't reviewed by NSICOP and wasn't addressed in this report. However, it will likely be considered when NSICOP continues its review of the situation regarding the RCMP's national security mandate.

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  That's fine, Mr. Chair.

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  Mr. Kurek, I think it's a combination of both. The report from paragraph 87 forward lays out the nature of what is happening—some of the changes, what's happening in the drug trade, what's happening with money laundering, the extent of that money laundering, the example of what t

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  I can't get into any more detail than what is in the report on this, but let me maybe repeat a few points. This rapid growth of IMVE is of very significant concern for Canadians. We believe this is true among our closest allies, and it's true in Canada. We have had enough compar

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  There's not much to add except to say that what we tried to do in the report was to apply a COVID-19 lens at the end of each of the five core threat areas to say what really has happened here under the pandemic. It appears the evidence indicates that the activity is being pushed

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  These types of lawfulness questions, just-in-time lawfulness questions, can be dealt with by the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency, NSIRA.

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  I think the report, Mr. Van Popta, has made it clear that obviously there's an online virtual community that is growing in the number of groups and participants. The security and intelligence organizations have indicated to us that there are clusters in the country, so we've trie

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  There are and the concern the committee wanted to raise with Canadians is that this is a very large group. We found that Canadians are highly active across 6,600 identified right-wing extremist channels, pages, groups and accounts. The study that we looked at also pointed to one

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  Any event that we were able to present to Canadians, Mr. Van Popta, for the period that we were reviewing, we have presented.

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  Ms. Michaud, you're absolutely right. This phenomenon affects public health, research and development and the Canadian economy. These threats exist throughout our society. We've tried to clearly describe the situation in this area in paragraphs 64 to 67. First, CSE has assessed

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  There was a debate, Mr. Harris, when this committee was first being contemplated in Parliament, of course. What is it? Is it an oversight committee? Perhaps a better description would be that of the American congressional committee and the nature of that committee compared to a

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  It's not something that the committee examined directly, Mr. Fisher. I think it's fair to say that listing a group is exposing a group. It is making more information available to the Canadian people about some of the activities that these groups pursue and what's at risk, which i

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  I couldn't really say whether the infamy of it will drive people to participate or to sign up, but I think that in order for us as Canadians and as Parliamentarians to know what we're dealing with, we have to have this in the open. A core message of the committee in this report

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty

Public Safety committee  It's not something the committee has examined. It might very well be. It would be a very important issue for the public safety committee to examine, for example, whether that would that be a contributing factor to help.... I want to repeat the message: This isn't going away. It'

May 5th, 2021Committee meeting

David McGuinty