Canadian Heritage committee  No, it wasn't in your particular riding, but we have met with other one-person operators or owners, as you say.

Canadian Heritage committee  Sure. We've met with Indiegraf and Erin Millar. We've met with Jeremy, whose last name starts with “K” at The Sprawl in Calgary. I guess what I'm reacting to maybe is to clarify, Mr. Shields, if you are under the impression that we have not talked to small publishers, that in fa

Canadian Heritage committee  I believe we have some agreements with.... I'm trying to remember. We have an agreement with Indiegraf and with The Discourse.

Canadian Heritage committee  I think there might be two. I'm not sure, exactly, but I think, by anyone's definition, it's a very small publication.

Canadian Heritage committee  We would be very pleased to speak with them, especially—

Canadian Heritage committee  —out from under the challenge of Bill C-18.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, sir. Sure.

Canadian Heritage committee  I don't think I'm familiar with that particular part. I am aware of the legal—

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm happy to take that, Madam. In Canada, you don't have to look—

Canadian Heritage committee  Mr. Julian, I have to say that on these sorts of matters, we take advice from our legal counsel, and our legal counsel continues to advise that the scope is unprecedented across the western world. It ingests all news links. It ingests audiovisual content and—

Canadian Heritage committee  It would make us pay for something that we don't put on our system.

Canadian Heritage committee  I did not say that, Mr. Julian. I want to be accurate for the record.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm aware of amendments, but unfortunately, our legal counsel has—

Canadian Heritage committee  Mr. Julian, I don't know that this is accurate at all.

Canadian Heritage committee  Of course, Mr. Julian. As we have indicated—and I believe you have been also present for some of these discussions—we have very strict content policies that go well above the rule of law in terms of what the laws require us to remove. We remove harmful content, we remove terrori