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Canada-China Relations committee  Absolutely not. As I said, you can be very strict and strong in how you feel and say it. Some might say, “We're in the freezer box in terms of our linkage, so why would you even say anything?” I think that's exactly the time to say it. We're not going to stop. It's there. Tha

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chair, thanks for the comments and the questions. It is much appreciated, and I will definitely pass on the remarks to Michael Spavor, Michael Kovrig, and also Robert Schellenberg. It means a lot to hear that this committee is hearing how people feel about that. With regard

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Sure. I think that Canada is a small trading nation. We're a G7 country, but we depend on trade and we depend on trading with large markets, and one of the absolutely largest markets in the world is China and it's going to become the largest market. For Canada's future prosperit

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, I've spent a lot of time with ambassadors from other countries who have gone through this. You think about Norway, Japan, Singapore, and I can go on. I think there are a couple of lessons learned. I think one is not to be bullied. It i

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  It is important to engage. I remember clearly, from talking to Singaporeans, that you need to have some relevance to be able to get things done. It's not just the economic relevance; it's the trust and linkages that people have built in what they're doing. I think it's importan

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chair, what I would say is that McKinsey has over 3,000 clients that we work with. I'm not familiar with that at all. I wasn't involved. I wasn't doing any client work. I was based in London at the time. I'm not looking at that, so I'm just not familiar with the details of th

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chair, what I would say is that I am not familiar at all with our being involved in designing the islands in the South China Sea. If you want to talk to someone at McKinsey to find out more information, I'm sure we'd be happy to get someone to talk to you about it.

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  I would follow the policy of what the government does. I think the Canadian government respects international opinions, but we don't have a view on maritime issues. I'd have to look at what our policy is on that. I don't—

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  First of all, what I would do on that is that I wouldn't make up an answer. I would actually go and look to see what we do. I would probably ask to get back to them on it because I am not familiar with all of the pieces. Canada opposes unilateral actions that escalate tensions a

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chair, could I just interject for a second? I said that there is a very different point you make that the company was involved while this was happening. It doesn't mean that McKinsey was advising on that, so you need to find out more—

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  I'd have to check that out. I'm happy to agree to that if you read it in The New York Times.

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chair, what I would need to do is.... McKinsey's pretty careful about client confidentialities. I'd be happy if there were some mechanism so that it isn't in the public domain but that some people could look at it. I'm open to that. What I would remark, though, is that, firs

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the committee. I know that you're taking on very important work, and I'm very honoured to be able to come and talk to you today. I want to spend just two minutes on the coronavirus. I know that the minister has already ta

February 5th, 2020Committee meeting

Dominic Barton