Canada-China Relations committee  First, I think it's interesting to see that although Australia has been even more outspoken than we are and is more exposed, it's not clear that it has suffered economically. China often encourages us to fear the worst, but I think over the long haul we have what China needs, so

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes. It's always—

Canada-China Relations committee  Absolutely. In the Chinese action, one of the immediate effects you saw was a dramatic decrease in exports of Norwegian salmon to China and a dramatic increase in exports of Scottish salmon to China. Here are two European countries with pretty close relations that were unable to

Canada-China Relations committee  This, of course, has been a worry. The old canard was that you shouldn't gang up on China. The result is that China, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, isolates and dominates countries one by one, with the sole exception of the United States. It has done this to Sweden. It's d

Canada-China Relations committee  I think the example of the belt and road is an example of how not to do things. Similarly with the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the Europeans broke rank in the most undignified way to rush to be the first, and certainly not the last, to curry favour with Beijing, but I t

Canada-China Relations committee  I think things we rely on, which went into the consideration of this, are the net benefit and national security provisions that are part of the Investment Canada Act. We don't have to take actions that are against our national interest, and I think as we see more of China's inten

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you. You'll recall that what I was advocating was, first, taking steps to push back against Chinese interference in Canada, which is growing; second, protecting our vulnerable supply lines, our exports; and the third thing was, indeed, working with other countries. One of

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you. It's very interesting to watch various interpretations of multilateralism through the pandemic period. I was interested that Australia, for example, which has much greater exposure to China economically than we do—China is its number one partner—began, as a middle pow

Canada-China Relations committee  You know, my particular concern is the public service. I'm worried that, since this crisis began, although we've done things like raising the travel advisory, the government is continuing to promote visits and exchanges with China. The public service, which does that almost autom

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you. What I was talking about in Policy Options five years ago was the notion that we have to be smart in our diplomacy. We have to work with allies and we have to take measures that we can achieve—we need to be realistic. The notion that somehow speaking honestly about Ch

Canada-China Relations committee  I think two things are happening. One, some of the people who have spoken out—for example, some of those who signed that recent letter seeking to have Ms. Meng returned to China—I think simply display a kind of fatigue. The effort to remain autonomous and independent in the face

Canada-China Relations committee  You know, I've spoken to Canadians of Uighur origin. I can recall hearing from a woman who is no longer able to communicate with her children in China. I know other people who have had to say goodbye to their parents because any communication will incriminate the parents, will ca

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you very much, and thank you for this second opportunity to meet with you. I'd like to begin by summarizing the points I had intended to make in my original appearance, updating them where necessary, and offering some ideas about first steps in getting to a smarter engagem