Procedure and House Affairs committee  Absolutely, I would agree that there are challenges. Just between the voice vote and the show of hands, I am more supportive of the show of hands, but I'd just like to make a quick point on the web and application-based voting.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  To comment very quickly on web- versus application-based voting, it's not that I'm opposed to those options. I recognize that for the U.K. House of Commons, they built this voting app software—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I can't give a blanket answer to that, because—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Just Goodman.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a Ph.D., but either is fine.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's a great question. Thank you. You could go by party. You could go alphabetically. You—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Upon reflection, I think video voting would work best, so I would put in verification to double verify parties within the legislature.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. That would be more for application- or web-based voting, but obviously we would need infrastructure to facilitate the video voting.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think Dr. Essex might be good to chime in here, but I know that with the web-based and application-based, for example, it's easier to capture intent. It can be clearer, but there are other issues. I think in terms of security it would be email at the bottom, then web-based and

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. The big positive for application and web is I think intent. Also, they can be very user-friendly. It depends on how they're designed. They work very well. In Estonia, for example, and Switzerland, they have worked well, but there are additional cybersecurity challenges.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm not opposed to proxy voting. However, after some consideration, and reviewing remote electronic voting and proxy voting, I do feel that the remote electronic voting enables representation and inclusiveness more fully.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, with the right security software.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, with outside consultation with experts who have done this before.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you very much, MP Brassard, for allowing me the opportunity to clarify. With respect to the birth of a new child, there's precedent there in other legislatures with proxy voting, and there's a good argument to be made there for extending that to electronic voting. With re