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Finance committee Six of those public service career years were spent as the deputy minister of Employment and Social Development in fact. I will not speak for officials in that department or in Minister Chagger's area of youth support, but my understanding is that a program will be stood up. It
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee Well, I certainly understand and appreciate the vote of confidence as one would expect from PSAC, and I generally agree entirely, of course, with the ability and the talent of the public service to deliver programs, and I think we have seen what the public service is able to stan
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee Personally, no.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee In the context of the suitability of a third party, and specifically the WE Charity as the third party, this was part of the cabinet discussion, and yes, the PM was briefed by PCO on it.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee This would have been one minister; if I remember correctly, Minister Chagger.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee I wouldn't use the word “refused”. It's because Minister Chagger is the Minister of Diversity and Inclusion and Youth and this was a youth program, and the Department of Employment and Social Development supported that minister in the development of the program.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee It would have been the natural placement of responsibility. As the senior ADM in that area of the department, the responsibility would naturally have fallen to her.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee It is the same answer, Chair. This would have fallen within Michelle's responsibilities as the relevant ADM.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee To the best of my knowledge, Chair, the answer to that is no. There were discussions involving Employment and Social Development, Finance, the ministers' offices of Finance and the Prime Minister's Office throughout various stages of the development of the proposal, but the pro
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee The answer, as far as I am aware, is no.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee Primarily the responsibility for the contribution agreement would be the relevant department, but the broad lines of a contribution agreement might very well involve scrutiny by the Privy Council Office or the Department of Finance, or even frequently the Treasury Board Secretari
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee Thank you very much, Chair and members of the committee. I'm glad to be here with you today. You're correct, Chair. I do not have an opening statement. I'm here to answer your questions to the best of my ability and, Chair, I would suggest we get right at it.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee In general, yes.
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee Not to my knowledge, Chair. I would say that the due diligence is carried out primarily through the negotiation or the development of a contribution agreement, which was certainly done in this case. If there were obvious problems related to an organization that were related to
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart
Finance committee —that would be—
July 21st, 2020Committee meeting
Ian Shugart