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Information & Ethics committee  At that time, there was no established program. Of course, WE Charity passed on its ideas, but it wasn't a competition. The offer to manage the program wasn't made to WE Charity. At that point there was no program. It was still being developed, but it has been established that

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  I want to be very clear that Minister Chagger was associated with the department for purposes of programming related to youth, done by order in council, and that is not unprecedented at all. A minister can be effectively cross-appointed to another department for purposes of progr

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  We have indicated that with the particular design of this program, given its scale and the desire for rapidity of beginning the program, the closest vehicle within the public service for delivering it would have been the Canada Service Corps, which was being designed and graduall

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  I think in general to this point that has been true, although the form of that may vary. The Canada Job Bank, for example, is a program of long standing which is fundamentally an IT platform for matching jobs with those looking for work. This program had features that were much m

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  The details of the design of the program had yet to be worked out. The policy was what the Prime Minister announced. The details were to be fleshed out later.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  It was not, that I recall. The Prime Minister's own history with WE was—

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  —but beyond that, sir, no.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  I do not believe it was.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  To the best of my knowledge, the answer is no.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  Either I was there or my colleague Phil Jennings, who's deputy secretary at PCO was. I would refer—

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  Well, as I said to the earlier question, this was oral, but yes, he asked for an understanding of the capacity of the public service, which was provided.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  Do you mean difficulties with that? No.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  My understanding of what the Prime Minister has said is that he wanted assurance that the i's were dotted and the t's crossed.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Information & Ethics committee  I am not aware that he found any particular gaps in the information.

August 11th, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart