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Finance committee  You're correct. He has said that on the record, and that was his decision to convey that. I do repeat that I don't how the Prime Minister—and let's remember, we're talking about the former Minister of Youth here—could not have been involved in understanding the development of a

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  I believe the committee should have access to as much of this information as possible.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  I will do that.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  I wasn't, Chair. Whether officials at PCO would have been aware at that point of the development, I do not know.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  I can verify, but I don't believe so. But—

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  We'll include that in what we provide.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  If there is such a thing, we can provide all of that. My intention, Chair, is to be as expansive as possible in the information we provide to the committee.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  That “ought” assumes that there was a failure of duty, and I'm not prepared to accept that assertion. I do not know what information was available to whom on the broader dealings of the organization, which I understand is a complex organization. I can only repeat for the committ

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  If that were relevant to their ability to deliver this program, that may be the case.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  I think the answer to that question is encompassed within my earlier answer. I don't have any further information.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  There is absolutely no evidence, no suggestion, in anything that I have reviewed that would suggest that the Prime Minister had any interaction with the WE Charity in relation to this program—none whatsoever.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  The same issue, as far as I know.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  Absolutely not. Contribution agreements are a vehicle that governments, going back as far as I can remember, have used to achieve public policy purposes in a transparent way that is subject to audit, which this agreement was and is. They are a standard vehicle. There are standa

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart

Finance committee  It all depends on the program and the nature of it, but, in brief, a minister proposes something, sponsors the proposal, so to speak, which would have been developed by public servants with input, again depending on the case, from stakeholders. Again, going back decades, govern

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Ian Shugart