Finance committee  Well, a handful usually suggests around five. I don't have an exact number. There were a few interactions—

Finance committee  —around the time of the announcement.

Finance committee  There was some back-and-forth around the time of the launch of the program. It's perfectly normal and actually expected.

Finance committee  I can get back to you.

Finance committee  I can look into that.

Finance committee  No, I'm trying to answer—

Finance committee  —whatever questions you might have for them.

Finance committee  No, I don't believe so. Actually, as I already stated, he actually redirected the organization, with which he had a very general discussion. He redirected them to ESDC.

Finance committee  One of your colleagues already asked me about this, and I will repeat my answer, which is that the program only launched at the end of June. In terms of the details of how the program was constructed and the—

Finance committee  The program was announced at the end of June. In terms of the details around the contribution agreement, I would refer you back—I know you've already spoken to them—to officials from the department who were involved in that.

Finance committee  The policy staff person in our office did what they do all the time—

Finance committee  —which is to take phone calls from stakeholders. He took a phone call from a stakeholder and redirected it—

Finance committee  —to ESDC.

Finance committee  I can't speak to how the contribution agreement constructed the details around how they looked back at that time period. I do believe it was that. In terms of the conversation involving my office, it was a general discussion that was then redirected to ESDC. It actually was as s

Finance committee  I would just take you back to what we talked about in terms of what we were aware of at the time. The Prime Minister, when he became leader of the Liberal Party, disclosed all of his financials and proactively disclosed all of his previous paid speaking engagements in a way that