Finance committee  I think you've actually spoken to quite a number of the people who were in the room, Mr. Julian. I think you've spoken to some of the most senior officials and you've spoken to the Minister of Diversity and Inclusion and Youth, so I'm not sure how you're confused on that.

Finance committee  I would have to look into that with the Clerk of the Privy Council, but I believe you've actually already spoken to all of the key people who would be able to answer that exact question for you.

Finance committee  Yes. I already stated that.

Finance committee  I'm here on behalf of my staff—

Finance committee  —and I'm happy to answer any questions you might have for them.

Finance committee  Is there a question you have for them?

Finance committee  So you don't have a question for them—

Finance committee  —but you would just like their name?

Finance committee  It was our director of policy, Rick Theis, a very long-time, hard-working political staffer in this town.

Finance committee  No. As I previously stated, there was a handful in total—

Finance committee  Well, a handful usually suggests around five. I don't have an exact number. There were a few interactions—

Finance committee  —around the time of the announcement.

Finance committee  There was some back-and-forth around the time of the launch of the program. It's perfectly normal and actually expected.

Finance committee  I can get back to you.

Finance committee  I can look into that.