Finance committee  No, I'm trying to answer—

Finance committee  —whatever questions you might have for them.

Finance committee  No, I don't believe so. Actually, as I already stated, he actually redirected the organization, with which he had a very general discussion. He redirected them to ESDC.

Finance committee  One of your colleagues already asked me about this, and I will repeat my answer, which is that the program only launched at the end of June. In terms of the details of how the program was constructed and the—

Finance committee  The program was announced at the end of June. In terms of the details around the contribution agreement, I would refer you back—I know you've already spoken to them—to officials from the department who were involved in that.

Finance committee  The policy staff person in our office did what they do all the time—

Finance committee  —which is to take phone calls from stakeholders. He took a phone call from a stakeholder and redirected it—

Finance committee  —to ESDC.

Finance committee  I can't speak to how the contribution agreement constructed the details around how they looked back at that time period. I do believe it was that. In terms of the conversation involving my office, it was a general discussion that was then redirected to ESDC. It actually was as s

Finance committee  That is not true.

Finance committee  That is not true.

Finance committee  I would just add that May 5—to add to the things that happened on May 5—was also the day that this proposal went to the COVID cabinet committee. It's possible officials were in touch with them in and around that, but I can't speak to that. What I can speak to is what I know, whi

Finance committee  Yes. I'm not entirely certain of the date, but I believe it would have been in early March—it might have been as early as late February, but I believe it was early March—that the Prime Minister struck a cabinet committee that we refer to as the COVID cabinet committee, which Depu

Finance committee  They are.

Finance committee  I am not sure how many exactly, and I don't want to guess, but there have been, as I mentioned, the Canada emergency wage benefit, the CERB, the programs for seniors, vaccine development, the manufacturing sector and bio-manufacturing. It's an endless number of programs. This is