Canada-China Relations committee  Canada has been under a very serious challenge from foreign interference. It's about time for our government, and all federal parties, to take this matter very seriously. What we need is immediate action to combat foreign interference instead of “forever” consultation. We cannot

Canada-China Relations committee  This kind of situation is not confined to the west coast. This is also happening on the east coast. Radio stations, TV stations, have all been infiltrated, or from time to time the management staff will be summoned by the Chinese embassy for advice to them as to what they should

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes. Even before I came to Canada— Is the sound system not working?

Canada-China Relations committee  Okay. Over the past few decades, I have witnessed the evolution of China's infiltration in elections. They have changed from a more reactive strategy to the current, very arrogant and active strategy of sending their own people to run for office, including some underground party

Canada-China Relations committee  Is that a question for me?

Canada-China Relations committee  The Chinese language media have been playing a very important role in exerting influence over voters in our Canadian society. As I mentioned before, because of the language barrier, Chinese Canadian voters get their source of information mainly from the Chinese language media. Ho

Canada-China Relations committee  I think it's not only confined to the limits of language—

Canada-China Relations committee  I'm sorry.

Canada-China Relations committee  I had exactly the same experience. I think it reflects a few problems here. One is that our enforcement departments, including the police and the RCMP, do not have the necessary expertise and knowledge about foreign interference. Therefore, we need to make sure they are being ed

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes, but it was also because we took the initiative to ask Global Affairs Canada to arrange for an RCMP integrated national security enforcement team to meet with us. I raised concerns. I also challenged why, after we have been complaining and complaining for decades, not even

Canada-China Relations committee  I think that is a good idea. The same principle should also apply to CSIS. I have been meeting with CSIS to advise them about foreign interference. From time to time, new people are sent to talk to me and every time I have to restart the education process. This is unacceptable.

Canada-China Relations committee  We've been talking about this threat for decades. In 2017 and 2020—

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes.

Canada-China Relations committee  No. I haven't heard of anybody who has gone to the police station to seek services. I think that the so-called provision of services is just a camouflage.

Canada-China Relations committee  No.