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Government Operations committee  Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair. Although I'm not specifically familiar with that particular study, I can say that the cyber centre does issue quite a lot of advice and guidance in terms of specific mitigation measures that individuals who are travelling should take to pro

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Yes and no. Yes, we are using the things we know about the techniques we employ within our lines of business to better design protections to those types of techniques; and no, in that we are not being asked to weigh in on specific changes to procurement activities, other than, a

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Thank you for your question. All tech purchases.... I couldn't even begin to know how my team could keep up with that level of demand. I think it's about choosing the right types of equipment in the right deployment scenarios that warrant our attention.

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  While I can see how you might feel that way, CSE, of course, is not a regulatory agency at all, so we don't weigh in on—

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  I think we definitely need to continue to consider who they are, the sensitivity of information and the specific technology in question before we decide whether or not they should be—

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Thank you for the question, Mr. Chair. I think the answer to your question really depends upon the sensitivity of the information that's going to be flowing through that machine. It will depend largely on where it's deployed, which is why typically when we do our assessment we h

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Clearly, what they are putting these pieces of equipment in place for, at embassies—and obviously Global Affairs is better to answer—is to screen people who are entering the embassy to make sure they're not bringing in anything they shouldn't be. Really, the type of information

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Is that question directed at me, or is it directed at PSPC? My apologies.

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  In my opinion, the work we're doing right now to identify additional types of equipment that should be flagged within the procurement policy for review of this type will get us to where we need to be to be more aware of what sorts of things should come to CSE for evaluation.

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Again, we were not actually approached by Global Affairs in support of this Nuctech standing offer that we're speaking about today. So my minister—

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  No, not with regard to this file.

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  Thank you for the question. It's a big one. The technical aspects that CSE is normally seized with assessing are but one of the inputs into a question like that. As you're aware, there are geopolitical, economic and other considerations that need to be layered upon the technical

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  That's a difficult question to answer rapidly, but I'll do my best.

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  No, it's okay. The CSE is not a regulatory agency, so it does not endorse or ban specific technologies or specific companies. However, I think, more importantly, the first part of your question gets to the heart of the matter: How do we ensure that departments and agencies know

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen

Government Operations committee  I will do my best to answer that. Normally, we have to take all of the surrounding details of a particular deployment into account when we explain something like this. Typically speaking, in the more recent versions of equipment like this, they are starting to emerge now with e

November 18th, 2020Committee meeting

Michele Mullen