Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes. The problem is that we don't have enough testing in Venezuela, so the people are dying. The last resort, as you said, is that they die from COVID, so there are a lot of people dying. We don't have the statistics, the numbers, because we don't have the tests. The government s

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  That's in Venezuela. This is inside Venezuela, yes.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Canada has been very helpful with respect to immigrants in all of the countries around, but I am always asking for help for the people who stay in Venezuela. We need to work maybe with NGOs, as we have a lot of NGOs working inside Venezuela, to try to keep the children and the pe

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  No. As Carolina said, the circumstances have worsened. The problem is that if you are a refugee or—

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Okay. The problem is that when people come back, they find that Venezuela has worsened in the numbers in terms of lack of medicine, food and everything. If you are in a country where you don't have legal status, you don't have enough. You have an informal job or you don't have a

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  What is going on is there is no hope for Venezuelans inside Venezuela. A lot of people, young people, don't see any future for themselves or their children, so they try to leave. From 2017, the flow of migrants has increased, and they are leaving by the thousands. They get to dif

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I want to thank you, Carolina, because I think you included all the problems and the numbers of Venezuela. I want to highlight the humanitarian crisis that we are living in, in Venezuela, and with the Venezuelan migrants in Latin America. In Venezuela the overall poverty rate i