Information & Ethics committee  Thank you, Chair.

Information & Ethics committee  Mr. Sorbara, thank you for your kind words. No. I learned when I watched a bit of the committee and he brought up my name. That was the first that I ever knew about his even looking into it. I assume he was hearing things so he looked into it and made his determination.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I will, no problem.

Information & Ethics committee  I can answer your other question right now, if you want.

Information & Ethics committee  Do you mean, have I heard their names before, or do I know them other than hearing their names?

Information & Ethics committee  No. I've heard these names before, but I don't know who they are. Mr. Jamieson would tell me if something was fed back. Actually, Mr. Godara would be the one he would be feeding it back to, so I would be getting it. They were the ones working together very tightly, if I can say that.

Information & Ethics committee  I prepared a list regarding the government contracts, because I assumed that. In 2011—

Information & Ethics committee  Yes. Sure. I want to point out one thing on these contracts. We had one after I left, and there were two that we had prior. They were both with the government of Prime Minister Harper, the Conservative government. One was for developing a device, and the other one was a loan. We were opening a new factory, and we got a loan where we didn't have to pay the....

Information & Ethics committee  I believe it is the job of the opposition to be vigilant and to monitor these works. This COVID crisis has seen an explosion of expenses and I don't think there's anything wrong with the ethics committee or any other committee investigating things that might have come up. I'll be honest; it had hit me personally to see my name, these falsehoods being stated and lines being drawn that were not true.

Information & Ethics committee  I'll clarify that. I was on one call—

Information & Ethics committee  When the crisis hit, my partner and I took a decision. We said we don't want to lay anybody off, but we have 750 people—we have an enormous payroll—so we started taking a lot of actions. Well, there were two people who got laid off. My partner and I actually took our salaries to zero.

Information & Ethics committee  I'm sorry.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you, Chair. It's just that Mr. Jamieson asked me to get on the phone. He set up the call. I don't know who was on the call. He said, “Explain to them why you need this advancement.” That's it. Mr. Godara calculated how much we needed.

Information & Ethics committee  I apologize.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you for your kind words, Charlie, about my father. If you're missing me another time in ethics, just give me a call, please. I'm happy to speak to you other than being summoned here.