Human Resources committee  I don't know if I'm the best person to answer that question. While I have experience with on-reserve housing in my personal experience, professionally I work in the context of an urban environment in proposal writing. That might be a better question for Chief Leon, Jr.

Human Resources committee  Sure. I'll be short, because I think the answer is pretty clear. It's a huge barrier. I think it's part of the value add. As Susan had mentioned for Homeward Trust, a lot of these organizations that are really relied on to deliver these services have demonstrated they can do it.

Human Resources committee  I think part of what I would observe, from my an experience in a smaller community and working now in a more urban environment, is that range of access to services. That is a huge driver of that churn, the types of services that one might need to access versus what's available in the community where you live, the difference between living in Edmonton versus living in my community of Driftpile Cree Nation.