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Environment committee  It is, largely. Perhaps Treasury Board can assist in answering this question. There is now more coordination than previously, but it is very limited.

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  Turning back to my appearance here a couple of years ago with respect to our lessons learned from Canada's record on climate change, we expressed some optimism about the recent climate legislation. That's twofold: the carbon pricing legislation and the net-zero act. It is much be

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  The plans are on a five-year interval, and there will be a new target for 2035 fairly soon. Hopefully, we don't forget about meeting the 2030 target because the 2035 target has come in its place. We have to meet all of them, including the objective in 2026, the target in 2030 and

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  This relates to an earlier question about leading by example. We would expect, given that Canada is requiring all Canadians to have only zero-emission vehicles available for purchase by 2035, that it is very important for the federal government to step up and lead by example in

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  The theory of the carbon levy, which is using a charge to partially internalize what was previously an economic externality in terms of economic theory, is well recognized as being a sound approach. We did our carbon pricing audit very early on, to look at mostly design issues,

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  There are sectors that have made no progress. It's negative progress for some. I presume you would rather hear about the ones that are the worst overall in terms of not achieving any reductions. Oil and gas is up between 80% and 90% in terms of emissions from 1990 to now. That w

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  It's since 1990. That's the baseline year for the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change and the baseline year for the IPCC. Oil and gas is up approximately 88%. Electricity's down 45%, but because oil and gas is such a large sector—in fact, it is the largest sect

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  Yes. That's why we note in the report that if measures are widely applied and stringent enough, they have the potential to achieve the target. We just know there's a notion of a cap, but we don't know the details of it, so it's impossible to predict whether that will bridge the g

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  One of the lessons learned from Canada's history is that it can achieve efficiency progress. Per GDP and per capita, emissions have been down in Canada over the last 30 years, but it's the total that is the target for Canada. The total net emissions for the world are what affect

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  Yes. If the current trend of acquisition were to continue at the same pace, they'd hit only 13% rather than 80%. Hopefully, that current trend is not just a fait accompli, and they can change it, but it will require a strategic approach for them to do that.

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  I'll turn that over to the department to talk about the internal operations. We were focused on the results of the program, as opposed to the operational requirements.

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  The 20% target in 2026 is called an objective in the legislation and it is an important addition because typically targets are so many years out that by the time we get close to the target year, there's already a new target and a new plan replacing it, and the narrative is more a

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  Do you mean if we eliminated carbon pricing and didn't replace it with something else just as significant?

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  If you eliminate it without compensating, then you're talking about what Environment and Climate Change Canada believes is responsible for one-third of the reduction—

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco

Environment committee  If you eliminate it and don't replace it with something just as effective, there's an obvious gap that Environment Canada estimates to be one-third.

November 9th, 2023Committee meeting

Jerry V. DeMarco