Justice committee  Well, we're an industry by ourselves. Whatever money comes in, that's how we survive. They call it the sport of kings. It's really not a sport of kings. It's a hard-working bunch of agriculture, grassroots people who own horses and try to race them for purse money to feed their f

Justice committee  I think any of the other sports operate on admissions, sponsorships, TV deals. All we have is the people who bet on the races. That's the only income we have on the horse side. On the horse people's side, we share in the revenue, whereas racetracks have food and beverage sales. W

Justice committee  Go ahead, Dave.

Justice committee  I think I can answer that. First of all, the historical betting is pari-mutuel, so we contend that it was part of our racetrack industry. This is a simple slot machine. They take races from the past, as far back as when Sandy Hawley was riding, as he said, or even me. You put

Justice committee  Go ahead, Dave.

Justice committee  Good afternoon. Thank you, Madam Chair, for this opportunity to present to your committee. My name is Bill O'Donnell. I am the president of the Central Ontario Standardbred Association, which represents and supports the horse owners, trainers, drivers, caretakers, tradespeople a