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Transport committee  Let me make two statements, the first one being that staffing has absolutely nothing to do with this monitoring and implementation of a NOTAM. Nav Canada—at the time and since then—has the staff required to implement and enforce the NOTAM.

March 21st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Nav Canada is the not-for-profit corporation that owns and operates the world's first privatized air navigation system, ensuring the safest, most efficient movement of aircraft from the Pacific to the Arctic to the mid-Atlantic, 24 hours a day, se

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  The situation is a bit unique at Nav Canada. We don't necessarily hire a pilot who has been trained by a school. Nav Canada hires people, trains them, and allows them to develop the skills required. That's why it takes a long time to get people qualified. As I said, it takes two

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  The situation was the same: the same process existed.

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  What do you mean by “this problem”? I want to make sure we are talking about the same thing.

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  There have been ups and downs over the years. Personally, I've been in the industry for 34 years; sometimes it goes well, but, other times, it goes a little less well. Since 2008, we have been hit by different crises. It is important to look at what happened just before the pand

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  It is very hard, actually, to attract people for the simple reason we are all competing for the same people a lot of the time. At Nav Canada, unfortunately, with the longer training programs, somebody has to very much make a time commitment and be in training for two or three y

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  We're implementing a lot of things from a technology perspective. We've submitted a number of those to the NTCF and they've been approved. We thank the government very much for that. We're looking at technology in line with what ICAO recommends that countries should move to in o

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  No, not at the moment. We have 250 people in training and over the next two years we will have another 500 people added to that number. We hope to be able to fill the classrooms and as we recruit people, we believe we will be able to increase traffic where there is a need.

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  What I can share with you is that we did see people leaving. Some of it was through programs. You have to understand that 66% of our cost is people. We had to take very hard decisions at Nav Canada to reduce our workforce by 12.7%. That didn't affect anybody directly in operatio

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  That's really hard to say. You're asking me to speculate a lot here. It all depends on when it happens and it all depends on how much time we have to recover. I think we've proven over the years, with the current model we have, that we have a lot of resilience in terms of how w

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  Yes. The impact would definitely not be good in the sense that our revenues would diminish and we would have to access money in other ways. We have a very—

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  Very quickly, there are three items that come to mind. The first one is that we need to modernize how we train and license people, especially our air traffic controller group. We need to move to competency-based licensing as opposed to geographic licensing. It's something that w

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  Wow, that's a loaded question. The world is a big place, sir. In some jurisdictions, yes, and I would say probably in most with the people we're working with.... However, there are other countries that I would not have this data for. I can speak from a knowledgeable place for

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard

Transport committee  It depends. I can talk to you about success rates historically and it depends where you qualify. There are a number of different air traffic controllers, and they are not all created equal. In the ACCs, we used to have a checkout rate, as we call it, of around 45%. In the towers

October 31st, 2022Committee meeting

Ben Girard