Procedure and House Affairs committee  Madam Chair, Mr. Berthold is repeating in French what Mr. Duncan said. Mr. Berthold is doing exactly what Mr. Duncan was doing. He's just doing it in French now. I think that it would be.... Perhaps he has just arrived back at the meeting and you will want to update him on the p

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In response to your question—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you very much for being here. If I understood you correctly in your opening statement, you said that your role for protocol is everything outside of this building, with the exception of maybe a hallway or something. Is that true?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You certainly don't have jurisdiction, for lack of a better term, over the chamber.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  However, you're here as a witness on a study that we're doing on something that happened in the chamber. I want to echo the comments of Madame Gaudreau. I greatly appreciate the work you do. I found it very interesting, even if the purpose this served was nothing less than under

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Part of the meeting was in camera—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a point of order.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I was going to follow up on that, but there's no need.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  On that point of order, I would respectfully disagree. Mr. Duncan doesn't have the right to do that. What Mr. Duncan has the right to do is to keep within the scope of the motion. He certainly had the right to try to amend the study. The Conservatives could have come forward and

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have another point of order.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. Mr. Duncan should tread lightly on the fact that the November 21 meeting was actually in camera. He might want to be careful about what he says in terms of that particular meeting and what may or may not have happened within it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a point of order. Mr. Duncan is deliberately and intentionally not heeding your ruling. You are the chair of this meeting. You have ruled on what is admissible in terms of questions, and they have to relate to the event that happened in the House of Commons. You ruled on

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You didn't ask for a challenge—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I thought you said you disagreed with her. You never challenged the ruling.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a point of order.