Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you. My next question is about bilingualism. When I'm here in Ottawa, I can speak French with my colleague, Ms. Gaudreau. However, when I'm at home on my own, I don't speak any French at all. Do you think that the hybrid format has lowered the level of bilingualism in Ca

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Right. This is what I'm trying to get at.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm sorry, I have to interrupt. I'm really trying to make an important point. Anecdotally, do you find that because of hybrid Parliament, anglophones speak more English than French in a hybrid setting than they do in a non-hybrid setting?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you. That's really disappointing to hear.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you to all of our witnesses here today. I'm a man who sometimes speaks very loud. During the pandemic, was it difficult for you when someone like me raised his voice to make a point in the House of Commons?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, no; it's a serious question, please.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you. That's a really important answer. In your opinion, Ms. Ballantyne, is the way we're doing things now sustainable for your profession? If hybrid is adopted on a permanent basis, do you think that's sustainable for your essential service?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Dr. Thomas—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Dr. Thomas. Dr. Brock, you mentioned in your recommendations that parties need to revisit speaker lists and restore speaker choice. Has hybrid Parliament exacerbated this problem?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  — government orders during a hybrid Parliament, and I can cite the data from the Parliament of Canada.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You didn't let me finish it, so—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Mr. Turnbull and I have actually both spoken in Parliament about 72 times. Maybe I'm at a bit more after last night. During government orders, I've intervened about 75 times. Mr. Turnbull, according to the Parliament of Canada, is at about 72. Mr. Lamoureux is at 780. The only pe

Procedure and House Affairs committee  There is also a list of parliamentarians. There are about 20 of them—two Conservatives and about 18 Liberals, if I remember correctly—who have not intervened once during government orders. If the purpose of a hybrid Parliament is to improve inclusivity, why are two members more

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, please. Either of you would be great. Thank you.