Natural Resources committee  You need to look at mechanisms that bring different groups together, including indigenous communities. Again, our Edmonton region hydrogen hub is a coalition of two of our indigenous first nations—the leadership, the chiefs, of those nations—and the mayors finding ways to engage industry, in some cases the willing industries, the ones that really want to be part of the solution.

Natural Resources committee  There are a large number of different technologies out there for monitoring fugitive emissions, from satellite measurements to ground-based measurements. To be honest, significant amounts of work have been going on over the past decade in methane emissions monitoring. It's taking a close look at all those technologies and some of the more low-cost ways to do it, as well, over large areas.

Natural Resources committee  It comes back to that: a strategic, more holistic approach, looking at the production but also the use, and where we can make the biggest difference most quickly. Hydrogen is important from the net-zero perspective, and we need to move quickly. We don't have the luxury of waiting 20 years for perfect conditions.

Natural Resources committee  Sure. We're seeing projects in Edmonton: Inland Cement working with others on carbon capture within their processes, and Lafarge as well. There are a number of interesting projects, pilot projects, moving ahead. They're part of that conversation. Hydrogen is important for those sectors that are very difficult to electrify or that can't go completely renewable.

Natural Resources committee  Again, we need to look at some of the opportunities we have across the country that may be somewhat unique and different. How do we take maybe more of a clustered approach? How do we pursue that opportunity in, let's say, the Edmonton region? How do we pursue a similar opportunity in Toronto, Hamilton and those areas, focused on the uniqueness of those areas and how we can scale up quickly?

Natural Resources committee  Sure. Maybe I'll start with the export side of it. We know that some of the international markets that don't have the ability to pursue renewable electricity to the same extent as others are looking at hydrogen and ammonia for, let's say, power generation. Japan has been very explicit about that.

Natural Resources committee  There is an opportunity for a place like Edmonton, as one of the first hydrogen hubs. It's a bit of an epicentre for that. As we look at the workforce in our region that can make a transition towards some of those hydrogen jobs of the future, there's a tremendous story there, but it does require a concerted effort.

Natural Resources committee  I'm not sure I can go into a whole lot of detail on the program in that our focus on hydrogen has been.... Probably this program specifically has been less focused, although I should say that when we talk about the hydrogen opportunity, part of that is managing the methane emissions associated with upstream oil and gas production or natural gas production in particular.

Natural Resources committee  I'm not in a position to comment on the intake of the program. I haven't done that detailed review. I'm not an expert in that area.

Natural Resources committee  Good afternoon. Good afternoon, members of the Standing Committee on Natural Resources. I'd like to start off by acknowledging that I'm participating today on Treaty 6 territory, the traditional gathering place and centre for trade for many first nations, Métis and Inuit people.