Government Operations committee  That would be in the fiscal year ending in 2017.

Government Operations committee  That's correct.

Government Operations committee  We could put forth an information request to National Defence to get that breakdown, in order to see whether there's any difference in the calculation between 2015-16 and the discontinuous break in 2017.

Government Operations committee  We unfortunately don't have any further information on that.

Government Operations committee  We haven't received any updates at this time. We can definitely do a new search to update the data should committee members wish.

Government Operations committee  Unfortunately, I'm not in a much better position than you are, Mr. Giroux. I can certainly say that subcontractor costs are included in our estimate, but I can't hazard what percentage that would be.

Government Operations committee  The way it works in our model is that the historical data we used had those cost categories all included in one bucket, if you will, and so we were using that as our base data to do the projection. You're projecting for all those categories simultaneously. This is a long-winded

Government Operations committee  I've heard of that as well, but at the time of this estimation, we were working with the assumption that both ships are going to be quite similar, but of course built at different shipyards. As to how we estimated the design costs, we looked at comparator vessels that we select

Government Operations committee  I'll let Yves answer that one.

Government Operations committee  There has been some advance in terms of what the planned design was, certainly between 2013 and now. I haven't seen whole lot of change in terms of some of the major features of the polar icebreaker. There has been an increase in light ship weight. That's one thing we've observed

Government Operations committee  Certainly. These would be costs on the side of the government. This does not include shipyard level costs. This would be everything from salaries—FTEs—to employee benefits over the span of the 22-year life cycle of the entire project, so 2009 to 2030, or 2031.

Government Operations committee  Yes. Certainly early on in the research project we requested data from Fisheries and Oceans Canada. They did provide us with insight into their methods and so forth, but this would be for their internal estimates that exist now and not the $1.3 billion that existed previously.

Government Operations committee  We took a different approach, certainly. We used an analogue approach that looks at historical vessels that we found to be of sufficient “comparability”, if you'll permit the expression. It's basically a model based on historical data that projects, after making adjustments to th

Government Operations committee  I can confirm that, yes, they did provide everything we asked of them.

Government Operations committee  I'll try.