Public Accounts committee  You will see cases in the IT informatics world in which someone incorporates themselves and they contract out themselves, as well as other people, as a resource, effectively doing both. They might be the resource or it might be another person they have subcontracted. In the case

Public Accounts committee  I assume he was billed as Dalian. That would make good sense. I'll turn to Troy in a second. The major and the colonel who supervised him did not know that he had other activity outside of the work he was doing for National Defence on a day-to-day basis. Troy, do you have anyt

Public Accounts committee  Over what period of time are we talking about?

Public Accounts committee  The numbers I have are since 2011, and for GC Strategies, it was $4.2 million. Obviously, the amount since 2015 is a subset of that.

Public Accounts committee  I believe the committee's request was—

Public Accounts committee  For Dalian, it was $7.2 million since 2011.

Public Accounts committee  As I said in my opening remarks, Mr. Chair, I've made the provost marshal—who is military police, which would be the starting point for jurisdiction here—aware of our work concerning Mr. Yeo and his employment and his potential activity as a contractor at the same time. At this p

Public Accounts committee  It depends. If concerns are specific to activity at National Defence, they would normally come through the provost marshal. I know my colleagues at PSPC have been in touch with the RCMP. If there is information the RCMP needs from National Defence for that investigation, they may

Public Accounts committee  There are a couple of points here, Mr. Chair. PSPC has made us aware that of the contract-related fraud they're looking into, about $400,000 of it relates to activity at National Defence. We don't yet have details on what that is and who the vendors are, but that information wi

Public Accounts committee  As a percentage of our total spend, I can't say—it's too early—but I don't think it's significant. On this notion of contractors working on multiple contracts at the same time across the federal government, of getting line of sight on how many different contracts a contractor may

Public Accounts committee  I think it depends on the contract. I've cited the example of why Mr. Yeo was turned into an employee, and I actually applaud that as an idea for when you have a contractor and you need that skill set on an enduring basis. We will provide the committee with information on our use

Public Accounts committee  Obviously, that's an individual choice, but I have some knowledge of what the driving forces are.

Public Accounts committee  We hear about the opportunity to work on different projects as number one. We hear about compensation as number two, but there's no magic to that order I provided. Those are the two most common ones.

Public Accounts committee  In this case, I'll need to clarify, Mr. Chair, that there was awareness that he was a full-time contractor for the Department of National Defence, and we wanted to turn that role into a public service job. The supervisors of Mr. Yeo were not aware of his broader business dealin

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, I'll have to come back with that. It's a subset, and there will be some speculation involved in terms of which companies are in that business. Roughly speaking, there's probably $73 million on professional services, and a subset of that will be apportioned to the type