Afghanistan committee  The way they get through that is through organizations that have funding from the government or donations, who can afford to go there. They pick them up on the flight, and then they transport them to the intermediary country. A lot of these individuals are signed up with non-profit resettlement organizations or humanitarian organizations, and this is how they are located and manifested for flights.

Afghanistan committee  My response would be that we have a handful of intermediary countries, the third countries.... An operation like that would look like landing in Kabul. The only thing I believe that's really holding us back from bringing people directly from Afghanistan to Canada is biometrics.

Afghanistan committee  I have confirmation through an organization in the UAE that runs the humanitarian city, and they control 95% to 98% of the flights that go into the UAE. I can certainly get you confirmation that the UAE is willing to take individuals to stay there as long as we are helping alleviate some of the capacity they have in the humanitarian city.

Afghanistan committee  My response at this time, to be entirely candid, is that with what we do we don't have a clear path as to how to get them out. The humanitarian, the vulnerable individuals and the people at risk are some of the most difficult at this time to be getting out of Afghanistan. A lot of them don't have documents, and they don't have an enduring relationship with the Canadian government.

Afghanistan committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. My recommendations for resolutions would be biometrics via contractor or subcontractor, perhaps not an NGO that's doing the evacuations but a third party, either inside Afghanistan or perhaps on a cruise ship at the port of Karachi in Pakistan, facilitating a floating humanitarian hub where you could do biometrics and then possibly....

Afghanistan committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Afghanistan committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, ladies and gentlemen, honourable members, for allowing me to come and speak with you this evening. My name is Brandi Hansen. I am a director for Vector Global Solutions in Canada. We're a non-profit organization. I'm also the director of operations for Ark Salus out of the United States.