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Declaration of Emergency committee  That makes perfect sense, given my familiarity with the organization. What I don't understand is why the request would have gone to the premier or the Solicitor General. Did it come from the chief of police, or did it come from the mayor? We'll have them here, but I'm trying to understand the differences, because I have a lot of questions about that.

November 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  In the provincial emergency regulations that the government put in place in Ontario, did you have input into those, and of what assistance were they to you?

November 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  Okay. I assume that some of that information would have come to you through the Department of Public Safety. Is it that kind of what the process was? I'm just trying to figure out the process within government.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

The Joint Chair

Declaration of Emergency committee  In that group of deputy ministers, I assume someone would chair. Would that have been you?

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

The Joint Chair

Declaration of Emergency committee  Within the proclamation itself, then, in declaring a public order emergency, the language says, “the special temporary measures that may be necessary for dealing with the emergency”. If the consultations took place, I expect your table would have had lots of discussions around that.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

The Joint Chair

Declaration of Emergency committee  For clarity.... I'm just trying to understand what the thought process was at the time. I'm sure the documents will help us with that. Would that be both what information you had on the table and also any other anticipation or concerns around other information that may come forward and that may influence a shift in terms of what people were doing or what they were up to?

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

The Joint Chair

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you for that. I think I understand how the operation of it works from the other end of it. What I was trying to get a feel for was that, in considering all of these things, you would also consider some of the other concerns you had that may not have occurred yet or were anticipated.

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

The Joint Chair

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. To the witnesses, thank you for being here. I'd like to zero in on the aspect of the proportionality to the public safety threat. Can you tell me how you made the determination, or what factors you took into account to consider the level of public safety threat that took place?

June 7th, 2022Committee meeting

The Joint Chair

Declaration of Emergency committee  I understand that we may have some potential witnesses for next week. I'm wondering if the clerk can confirm their availability. I'm wondering if it would be best to hear those witnesses and then set aside the following week, because with those witnesses, some of the testimony attaches back to what we heard from the two ministers.

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  Out of courtesy, maybe we can release the witnesses who are here.

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  I wonder if we can clarify what groups we're talking about. I believe one of them is the RCMP. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'm almost loath to open this subject again, but in terms of internal reviews, from FINTRAC's perspective, how would you normally do an internal review of a particular week of unusual activity or such? I'll give you the context. In policing—that's my background—if you're generally involved in an incident, you would have an automatic review that would take place to look at all the steps that were taken and what may or may not work in the future.

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. For your benefit, I may not take the full five minutes. I'd like a little more clarity—I'm sorry I don't recall who responded—on the issues of cryptocurrency. How has that changed or may it change in the future? I'm thinking more about the future, not this incident particularly.

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface

Declaration of Emergency committee  If I'm clear then from both of your answers, your sense is that there's something within the Department of Finance, but it doesn't fall within your particular area. Is that correct?

May 3rd, 2022Committee meeting

Gwen Boniface