Canadian Heritage committee  I'm just waiting for you to pause so I can answer the question. There is a really bad echo.

Canadian Heritage committee  I have had conversations with your department, with the minister's department, with Canadian Heritage, and I have been very open about the fact that we received some funding from our platform partners. I don't think I said we didn't in my question. I did say that it's mostly volunteer.

Canadian Heritage committee  They are YouTube and TikTok.

Canadian Heritage committee  I don't see how it's any different. We take no government funding, and everybody here in support of the bill is deeply invested in government funding and supporting the government's bill. I don't see how it's any different—

Canadian Heritage committee  I filled out all my lobbying stuff as well as I could.

Canadian Heritage committee  I actually don't remember, to be honest. I'm being very honest. I don't remember.

Canadian Heritage committee  I want to make sure I have an answer, just time to speak.

Canadian Heritage committee  I appreciate your checking out our social media, and I look forward to the government's support of Digital First Canada's road to freedom, where we're going into indigenous communities to help indigenous youth. To that point, creative output is not an issue. There are tons of people creating online for many different reasons.

Canadian Heritage committee  I think they should pay their artists.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'm not taking money from creators at all.

Canadian Heritage committee  I would have to go back and look at the Status of the Artist Act statement, but I don't believe I said that.

Canadian Heritage committee  What did I say?

Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  Sure. When you're buying advertising as an advertiser, you're setting the demographic or cohort that you want your content to be identified by. You're targeting that audience. When something's happening naturally in the algorithm, the algorithm is deciding who that cohort is based on likes, wants and the other same personalities they've built.

Canadian Heritage committee  Indirect revenue can mean anything from merch sales to concert tickets to selling your online course, whatever it is. Indirect revenue can literally be anything. More importantly, just because a creator is not monetizing a piece of content does not mean that the content is not being monetized.