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Information & Ethics committee  Thank you. I agree with Dr. Jenkins. The variance that he described, the lack of certainty that we have about whether the data stays on the phone or if it stays on company servers, or if, in fact, it's used by a third party vendor and stored on their servers, shows the need for

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you so much. This is a great question. I urge the committee to think about consent in a context in which consent takes place. Consent can often be much more complex than it looks from the outside. It's not always a yes or a no, or “no I don't want to do this, so I'm going

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  In high-risk scenarios, where lives and livelihood are on the line, not only are these technologies at present unreliable, but they also presume that social constructs, like race and gender, are machine-readable in a person's face. That is simply untrue.

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  I think their technologies should not be used in high-risk scenarios.

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  The workplace is a very high-risk scenario. They should not be used in the workplace. They should not be used in a public space. They should not be used by police. Frankly, I think there ought to be a moratorium until we know more about how these tools are impacting communities.

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question? It's examples of already deployed FRT?

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  As far as I know, FRT is currently being used on Uber drivers, on Amazon delivery drivers and on at-home health care workers who are required to log into their workplace using electronic visit verification. In terms of FRT instead of FVT, as far as I know, many police department

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  A step toward answering that question would be to use such legislative and regulatory tools as an algorithmic impact assessment, in tandem with consultation with marginalized groups. I can't speak for the workers as to what kinds of safety and security technologies they would li

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  This is not my area of expertise, but I will say that one area of legislation that's been particularly useful for workers in automated decision-making is in the GDPR, and its functional right to an explanation. While the GDPR does not actually have the words “right to an explanat

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you. Forgive my ignorance with the Canadian criminal charter. In the U.S., we have a right to freedom of movement. If facial recognition technology is collecting faces from people as they move through public space, then that means the decisions they make about which publi

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  It depends to whom you're addressing such care be taken. If the definition of care includes, for example, consultation with workers or consultation with labour interests or workers' advocates to.... I have not spoken to all workers in Canada and the U.S., and I can't speak for al

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you so much for asking this question. This is such an important question that I've been having recently with colleagues. When I beat the drum about needing to get rid of facial verification, a lot of people will then say, “Well, then, what next? What instead?” It's because

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  One thing that struck me in reading all the language around bans that have erupted in the past few years is that they're a great start. However, these bans typically only address the way in which these technologies are used by state-backed agencies—by police departments, for exam

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins

Information & Ethics committee  That's a fantastic question. The private sector often goes under-regulated when it comes to these sorts of technologies. There's a really fascinating model available in the state of Illinois under their Biometric Information Privacy Act. They established that, rather than havin

April 4th, 2022Committee meeting

Dr. Elizabeth Anne Watkins