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Fisheries committee  Yes, I would imagine, since it's in the north Pacific, that will be tied to these foreign vessels coming in and catching B.C.-bound or Washington state-bound fish, so again I have to answer a question with a question. What was the result of the $46 million? That would be my quest

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  It's not one part of British Columbia versus another. It's a full cross-provincial approach. Our fish do not know boundaries. They do not know borders. There's lots of discussion about marine protected areas as well. Salmon has been through it all. The front end of the Fraser rig

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  I don't know, and I think again this is an issue of transparency. We hear this stuff through DFO, but quite frankly if there was a ship that had B.C.-bound fish on it, and apparently hundreds of thousands and up to a million pounds' worth, I feel like that should be disclosed to

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  My best answer would be that I don't know. I would say, as it relates to that opening in 2022, there were a number of missteps. I think there were literally hundreds of thousands of fish that the Pacific Salmon Commission believed hit the mouth of the Fraser River but didn't end

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  Yes, our discussions with former DFO officers are showing that the culture is the worst it's ever been. There's a lot of that being attributed to a change in bringing managers in from outside of compliance and enforcement and bringing managers in who are not passionate about the

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  I think it would be really enlightening to see some statistics from C and P and to ask some questions. There are two metrics here: what compliance looks like and how many infractions we have. The first one is what the presence is like out on the water and in the river. That's t

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  Yes, broadly, the needs of any resource management, whether it's fish, wildlife or habitat, are funding, science and social support, which is essentially government. The funding piece is one of the critical pieces in Canada. When we look south of the border, they have dedicated

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  It's a challenging question to answer because we don't actually know how much is coming out of the bucket every single year as it relates to IUU, so it makes it really hard to make a guess. One of the big announcements that came out was around the provincial nature agreement and

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  In my mind, again, it comes to outcomes. In my mind, it would be developing a metric to say how many officers we need per square kilometre of river or per thousand square kilometres of river, and that would be a recommendation that would go up: “Here's how many officers we should

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  I think that, specifically as it relates to IUU, it needs to be focused on the ground. Admin time and spending time in an office does not help to get a presence out on the river or out on the ocean. You're going to need people in the field who are out and engaging fishers and tal

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  I'm not aware of that in B.C., no.

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  The ORR line, I think that happened years ago. It was maybe decades ago; I'm not sure. I don't know who manages it now, but at the time it was the commissionaires. I believe our app was probably created around 2017, something like that—2016 or 2017. It was really to fill a gap an

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  Certainly, you have to monitor it to manage it. That applies to compliance and enforcement, or compliance and protection. That applies to fisheries management, and that applies to everybody's bank accounts. If you don't know what's going into the system and you don't know what's

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  That's the impression we've been given by former DFO officers, but again, compliance and protection I feel would be the best to speak to that in a meaningful way.

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman

Fisheries committee  I can't articulate to that effect. I do know, through my discussions with DFO, that DFO and CBSA do work together. That has been made clear to us, but the RCMP's role in that I'm not aware of.

November 28th, 2023Committee meeting

Jesse Zeman