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Information & Ethics committee  Yes, sure. Artificial intelligence pertains to a broad range of systems, of which facial recognition is one. Facial recognition is a type of technology that is able to perform human-like observation or human-like recognition. We would class facial recognition as a type of AI alon

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, it's an important question, and we don't see it as a double standard. The reason we're here today is that we want to play a participatory role in creating facial recognition in general. We think there is a real opportunity in Canada. We do think that in the U.S. in particu

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  That's a really important question, so thank you for it. As I mentioned, I do think one of the big risks that need to be addressed through regulation is the potential risk of discriminatory performance in facial recognition technology. Something we've been very mindful of as we'

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  There is a real mix of different sectors. A lot of the applications we use ourselves. These are things like Windows Hello on our Microsoft devices. If anyone has a Surface or a Windows device, Windows Hello is a big part of that. More broadly, there are a lot of security and ve

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  I am not aware of any contracts at present, but I do want to make sure that I am getting you an accurate answer to that question, so—

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  I would have to check that. When it comes to facial recognition, I don't believe so, but I would have to go and check that.

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I wouldn't have had to authorize them and sign off on them, but there definitely would have been conversations from across the company, including the wider team that I am a part of, the Office of Responsible AI, which likely would have been involved in that, but—

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I think there are a couple of bits to it. There are the internal safeguards that I mentioned, including the sensitive use review process. Any deployment of technology with the kinds of clients you're talking about would have gone through that sensitive use review process to

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  [Inaudible—Editor]

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, exactly. That's—

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  Because it's on a case-by-case basis. In Canada we would be looking at any deployment to make sure that it was being done robustly. I would say—

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  We do think that facial recognition can have applications in the security and law enforcement context. I think what's really important to note here is that we take a risk-based approach to how we assess using a system and the kinds of customers that we will work with. We have ou

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, for sure. I would be very happy to do that.

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter

Information & Ethics committee  It protects Microsoft to have a framework in place, but not necessarily for the reasons that were mentioned. We generally think that it's really important to build a regulatory framework for technology in general that engenders trust and shows that technology is being used in a t

May 5th, 2022Committee meeting

Owen Larter