Industry committee  You too. Thank you so much.

Industry committee  Sure.

Industry committee  Absolutely, they have been using those programs. That's not to say they haven't still accumulated debt with regard to the Canada business account loans and other things like that.

Industry committee  Certainly I think the extension of the payback period was welcome, but I think the government should look at—and perhaps you could look at—those highly affected sectors, particularly in terms of how to alleviate some of that sitting debt for these companies that were hardest hit.

Industry committee  I think they play a significant role. In particular, a lot of their role goes beyond the straight-up financing of companies. They play a significant educational role, and I think the government should look at other ways to partner with these institutions to provide them with addi

Industry committee  I'm familiar with it, but I'm not an expert in it.

Industry committee  Yes. I think it's fabulous. I think it's necessary. We are partnered through the Ontario Chamber of Commerce on the digital adoption program. I would encourage more of this. I think it's also important from the standpoint of cybersecurity. Increasingly, this is going to be an a

Industry committee  No.

Industry committee  The excise tax is a great example that you're providing. Certainly our member, Arterra Wines, has been a very vocal proponent of not moving to increase that tax. Yes, that is what I'm referring to. Any new taxes and regulations that are introduced that put additional costs on sm

Industry committee  That's true, but I would also say that our members are very much wanting to contribute to solutions for climate change. I think it's a matter of ensuring that we don't put our businesses at a competitive disadvantage, whether it be through a carbon tax or cap and trade and so on.

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  I think it's about looking at the processes that the CBSA employs. Sure, resources are also an issue. We're seeing it in terms of passenger movement, but it also affects goods movement. Quite frankly, there's considerable backlog for many of our members who are either importing o

Industry committee  Not at this point. I just think it's important that this be considered when reviewing the needs of CBSA and the work that they do. It's not a specific example that I'm bringing to you today.

Industry committee  It was a general statement that as the government is considering any new measures that would impact small business, it should be keenly aware of the costs that would be transferred onto small business. Ultimately, those costs are often transferred onto the end consumer. It wasn't

Industry committee  Right. This is with regard to the transitioning economy and the new areas of jobs and skills that are required in that economy, and that the codes be reflective of the current reality. It's all part and parcel of modernization efforts so that those occupational codes are in line