Information & Ethics committee  The 6% used were the actual three files I spoke of. The 85% were used to test the program. The members in the NCECC tested this process on themselves as—

Information & Ethics committee  When we test the system, it's on our members and using celebrities who are on the Internet. It was never, and has not been, used for mass surveillance.

Information & Ethics committee  We put a very tight restriction on who can use it and for what purposes. It was in the—

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I am aware of it. It's a program that CCCP runs out of Winnipeg for the child exploitation centre there. It is not using facial recognition technology, and I confirmed that with the director of their program. They use a hashtag search, which generally is the DNA of a photogr

Information & Ethics committee  I have never seen any examples of the RCMP using it for mass surveillance at all.

Information & Ethics committee  I'm saying that we would never use it for mass surveillance.

Information & Ethics committee  We have never searched mass surveillance.

Information & Ethics committee  I'm sorry. I was on mute. This is the first time I've been at this committee meeting, so I have not provided evidence in the past. All the partners we would work with would be expected to follow our policy if we're going to use facial recognition technology.

Information & Ethics committee  We do not use mass surveillance.

Information & Ethics committee  There are a couple of questions there. I would recommend we would not use it for mass surveillance, and that's why we do not use it for mass surveillance.

Information & Ethics committee  We only use facial recognition on victims of this horrendous crime. We do not use it on suspects. Every time we've used it in the child exploitation world, it was to identify victims, not suspects.

Information & Ethics committee  When it comes to child exploitation, we realize that Clearview AI is not always correct. That's why we have a human intervention piece in there. It is absolutely critical to have a member actually view the results to see if they are true. We did, in fact, test it ourselves, and

Information & Ethics committee  The reason I cannot provide a name is that the individual is not an employee of the RCMP anymore. I do not know if that name can be released. If I was told I could, I would gladly produce the name.

Information & Ethics committee  My predecessor had the same role that I have, which is director general of sensitive and specialized investigative services.

Information & Ethics committee  Certainly that individual did have experience in that position, but I do not know for how long.