Science and Research committee  The work we've done for Ontario, which I'm glad to share with the committee, if appropriate, looked at what the load would be for Ontario if you electrified all the things I talked about, the three big sectors. Then you just simply back into how much new hydro can be built, how m

Science and Research committee  Yes. We have a report we can provide on the big Darlington refurbishment and the carbon impact of bringing, basically, 3,600 megawatts of nuclear back onto the grid. Secondly, we have carbon- and jobs-related data related to what we are going to build on the small modular react

Science and Research committee  The Chalk River one, which we do through GFP, is really to demonstrate and improve the technology that would be applicable to some of the remote communities and a mining site. It is to build that specific non-grid scale technology and to demonstrate that we can do it effectively.

Science and Research committee  Your wording was really good around “if not done right”. I think what we are doing at Darlington for the new site is being done right. Our Williams Treaties First Nations group, and then the broader group, have been part of the conversation from the beginning, and that's a step I

Science and Research committee  That's correct, and it's very regionally dependent. Some provinces are blessed with more power—Quebec, B.C. and Ontario have a fair amount—but to double the size of a system, every technology needs to play a bigger role, including nuclear. I think we need to think of it that way,

Science and Research committee  Okay—

Science and Research committee  Let me start with.... The one premise at Darlington is that we plan to have the first reactor operational in 2028, so it's not too far away. We will have done the refurbishment of our Darlington reactors in 2026. The cost of those is a little over eight cents per kilowatt hour. T

Science and Research committee  Those are the big reactors. We would anticipate on an SMR level for grid-scale SMRs that they're probably in or around the 10 cents range.

Science and Research committee  We will do that at our Darlington site. We are working toward achieving that level of cost.

Science and Research committee  It's separate and distinct. It's $12.8 billion to finish the four big reactors—

Science and Research committee  —and then, for our smaller modular ones, which we are building beside the big ones, we think they will ultimately come in at that 10 cents to 11 cents range.

Science and Research committee  The way we compare it is that for the next new development in Ontario—this was one of the questions from a member earlier—it'll be further north, and therefore you have to build transmission to bring it south, where most of the load is required. You're probably looking at 15 cent

Science and Research committee  Yes, that is correct.

Science and Research committee  I think there are two parts to the SMR technology. I'd call one a grid scale, which is what we are setting out to build at our Darlington site. They're about 300 megawatts in size, which, roughly speaking, would electrify 300,000 houses, give or take a few. We will ultimately put

Science and Research committee  There are three items. The first is continued support of our regulatory environment. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission is our regulator, which the government gave funding to in the last budget, so continued support is important. The second is the environmental impact asses