Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. I do not have the text message with the statement.

Canadian Heritage committee  I have not, Madam Chair.

Canadian Heritage committee  I can use the oath, thank you, and I do not have an email or a text. Thank you.

Canadian Heritage committee  I, Tom Renney, do swear that the evidence I shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God.

Canadian Heritage committee  You know, that is a hypothetical situation and a hypothetical question that I don't know is a real good idea to speculate with, quite honestly. I think that's something to discuss with our legal representatives on both sides of this, to understand better what might be in everyone's best interest.

Canadian Heritage committee  I'll let Mr. Smith take a breather here. We certainly have every desire, through our maltreatment initiative and policy, to identify, with our 13 members across the country and 650,000 players in 2,500 minor hockey associations, and commit to what the code of conduct looks like, what it feels like and how it is supposed to be implemented.

Canadian Heritage committee  We are certainly paying very close attention to the young woman and her wishes at this point in time. Should that manifest itself into more, where our legal assistance chooses to have that discussion about further information to be forthcoming, we would look forward to that and look forward to that level of participation between the two legal concerns.

Canadian Heritage committee  Correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, I can tell you that during competition we have very strict measures with which to provide oversight to the players, staff in general, and obviously the volunteers who help us at these events. I can tell you it's my belief that at an event such as the gala, for example, as was suggested by the independent report, we needed to strengthen our supervision over the event of that evening and certainly our players.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. We believe that we can improve on the scope and skill of what we do in our code of conduct right now. Our code of conduct, as it sits with our high-performance programs and in competition, has zero tolerance for any type of a breach of the code. Where I think we have an issue internally is that the lines are blurred when it comes outside of the code of conduct for events such as our Order of Hockey in Canada and gala, but also symposium seminars, clinics or whatever the case may be.

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe it is. That's where, as I mentioned, the line is blurred between what we do and what we have our players adhere to in competition and where, under the jurisdiction of Hockey Canada.... Even though at an event like the gala event I think there was misinterpretation, I don't know that we represented the code of conduct as accurately and precisely as we should have for those players attending the gala to understand what would have been in everyone's best interest in the first place.

Canadian Heritage committee  I would like to think that today's proceedings, which we completely embrace, will help everyone understand that responsibility is important and we take it seriously, and that we have not normalized the function of women and assault at all. My suggestion to you is that on a go-forward basis....

Canadian Heritage committee  I do not know to what level Mr. McCurdie worked on sexual assault cases. I do not have that information. I know that it certainly was not a function of his gaining any type of a promotion, because of what we would have considered success in that field. He is very good at what he does.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes.

Canadian Heritage committee  Madam Chair, thank you. I would tell you that an incomplete report is just that, and I don't know that it suffices, because beyond that it's speculation. I don't think any of us in this room want to work beyond speculation.