Public Safety committee  Well, that's not what was communicated from her during the phone call. It was directly related to pressure about the calibre of weapons and that we didn't understand the big picture of the dynamic here with downtown. Certainly she didn't say on the call that she was displeased ab

Public Safety committee  No, I don't. I can't speak specifically to what was being talked about publicly because there were a lot of things being talked about publicly. However, I do know, based on Darren Campbell's and the investigative team's advice, that it would have been detrimental to the investiga

Public Safety committee  I can only make assumptions, sir. That would be that we shared the information and the inventory list that Chief Superintendent Leather was talking about with the commissioner and that information was passed on to Public Safety.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Deputy Commissioner Brennan—and it was discussed as well between Chief Superintendent Leather and me.

Public Safety committee  Well, actually, no, because if you were coming into Nova Scotia, even though we had the bubble, and you were coming there to work—it was essential service, basically—then you didn't have to do any of the quarantining.

Public Safety committee  I'm unaware of why her position changed. I certainly didn't have any conversations with her about it. I would always rely first on the wishes of SiRT and the wishes of the investigative team at that time because they have the intimate knowledge of what they can and cannot release

Public Safety committee  No, I would not have.

Public Safety committee  Yes. Well, that makes sense now, why she was upset, but it should have never been shared with her that we were going to release details of weapons and calibres or whatever the ask was. She should never have been told that.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Not here I can't. I would have to get them out of Nova Scotia to be able to table them.

Public Safety committee  We did not tape the conversation.

Public Safety committee  At that time, there was an ongoing investigation as it related to the weapons, because we were working with the FBI and with our counterparts in the U.S., the U.S. border patrol and CBSA, so there was kind of an investigation still going on between those three or four different a

Public Safety committee  The reaction was, I would say, confused and a bit stunned, because any police officer knows that if you're in the middle of an investigation, certain information cannot be released. In this case, Superintendent Campbell, who is in charge of support services, or was at the time, a

Public Safety committee  Not the inquiry, the investigation.