Canadian Heritage committee  Just quickly, the two awards that the CRTC gave to CMAC related to an accessibility proceeding. They were for $16,815 and $15,332. All other cost awards granted to CMAC, to our knowledge, were done by the broadcast participation fund, an independent organization.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes. We do both mediate and arbitrate in all areas of our work, but particularly in telecommunications and broadcasting. The most active areas are actually in broadcasting, and they largely relate to disputes between program suppliers and program distributors. They're frequent.

Canadian Heritage committee  It is.

Canadian Heritage committee  I do not have those statistics committed to my memory. I'd be happy to undertake to try to find some, but I would say this: Most are resolved through mediation. In my term, I believe there have been perhaps four or five matters dealt with through final offer arbitration. Even in

Canadian Heritage committee  Madam Chair, could I just finish the response?

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll just say that it is a supervisory role, not an active regulatory role. As you described, yes, we have to fill out certain aspects that are not detailed in the legislation.

Canadian Heritage committee  The essence of the legislation is to create an environment to permit parties to reach a negotiated outcome.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's not what I said.

Canadian Heritage committee  Through you, Madam Chair, I'll try to be more clear. I did not say that we're not engaging in regulation; I said that the fundamental nature of our activities is a supervisory one. In order to establish the regulatory framework, we will of course have to pass regulations along t

Canadian Heritage committee  I think that's what the legislation contemplates.

Canadian Heritage committee  It isn't for me, as the leader of the CRTC, to contemplate what the nature and objectives of the legislation—

Canadian Heritage committee  I can certainly try to answer that. I believe we have the necessary skills, more so than any other existing regulatory authority, to perform these functions.

Canadian Heritage committee  That's incorrect.

Canadian Heritage committee  First I have to disagree with your statement. The CRTC did not give funding, and the number is absolutely incorrect. The CRTC has granted two cost awards in relation to an accessibility procedure to the organization you cited. We completely condemn the remarks of that individual

Canadian Heritage committee  May I finish the sentence?