Canadian Heritage committee  I don't know what it is you would like me to table. It's taken by the broadcast participation fund, which operates entirely independently from the CRTC.

Canadian Heritage committee  The members of this Committee may already be familiar with the Independent Local News Fund. Created by the CRTC in 2016, the fund gives independent television stations across the country access to approximately $23 million in resources. Madam Chair and members, we'd be happy to

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you. The list that you just provided in quoting from Mr. Geist is almost exactly the same as the list that I referred to with respect to the responsibilities that the commission has contemplated performing under the legislation. There's no disagreement there. The final co

Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I delighted in your first mistaken introduction when you referred to new witnesses. It made me feel young. I'm not new but familiar, and happy to be here with the members. I appreciate being invited before the committee once more. You've already

Industry committee  With your permission, I'd like to add something. It may have been Mr. Masse who raised this in previous meetings, but I think there's a concern, as we impose constraints or direct phone companies to take measures, that we need to be very attentive to: that those costs of implem

Industry committee  They have to come to us and say, “Can we apply this technology?” In that case, they said, “Could we do a trial and apply this technology to see if we can screen out calls in this way?” We gave them permission to do it on a temporary basis following a public proceeding where we go

Industry committee  We have to separate criminal from what they believe are not—

Industry committee  Yes: legitimate calls or patterns—

Industry committee  What they should be doing.... As I said, it's a delicate question. Can they take some measures on their own? They might, but they have to be very careful, because there are very clear lines drawn in the—

Industry committee  They have to come to us and ask us.

Industry committee  If I'm understanding the question, we're mixing different concepts. They don't know that it's a fraudulent call. What we're dealing with here, if we took spoofing.... Actually, I'll go back to the Bell example. That's a system where they're getting callbacks. They're calling nu

Industry committee  That is when they'll come and say, “We're seeing this pattern, and we know they're not legitimate calls.”

Industry committee  They could, but they don't know what's happening. They don't know. They can't go inside those calls and listen or know what's going on. They're coming to us, as the regulator, to say, “We think these calls are illegitimate and we want to take measures.”

Industry committee  They could go to the RCMP, but they would be telling them that they're getting a whole bunch of calls using this number pattern, which doesn't mean anything to the RCMP. It means something to us.

Industry committee  They couldn't deal with that. I'll just very quickly go back to the idea of malformed numbers. If you're getting numbers that aren't real phone numbers, full of a bunch of zeroes because scammers are sending calls through the system using phony numbers, or they're all fives or t