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Government Operations committee You know, to be 100% honest, it hurts morale. We have a set of professional people who have been hired for their talents and skills. To not be part of the conversation is very damaging. It runs really deep into the workforce. When their work is outsourced, again those skills and
January 30th, 2023Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee I don't believe so. I believe they are in the business of making money, of being able to have a contract. I believe some of the contracts are actually written so they can perpetually have that work. One example I can give you is Phoenix, the pay system outsourced to IBM. Even if
January 30th, 2023Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee I will hold you to that. Good afternoon, everybody. As mentioned, my name is Jennifer Carr, and I am the president of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada. Today with me is Jordan McAuley, who is our expert on government outsourcing, to assist me in answeri
January 30th, 2023Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee From my workers, I just [Inaudible—Editor] health care workers—
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee I'm going to hand that off to my VP, Eva Henshaw. She's been working with the chief information officer. Go ahead, Eva.
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee If you'll allow me to interject—
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee Basically, it's a power dynamic shift. Temporary agencies were that. They were hiring for three- to six-month contracts. They weren't hiring for long-term duration contracts. What has happened now is that we are using them for multi-years, so they are not subject to the same equ
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee Again, I'm just telling you from our examples, one resource for one resource. An IT architect at the Department of National Defence was contracted out for $360,000 a year and is repeated again for eight years. The equivalent public servant, with benefits, was at $148,000. Again
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee I will put that in writing.
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee Thank you for your question. I must say that we are in a different situation, because we represent the professional groups. I want to talk about some of the things in staffing and recruiting, especially for northern nurses. The fact is, they watch agency nurses who come in and
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee We definitely could.
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee Thank you very much. I will also speak in English. What we need are modern hiring policies that create efficient timelines for hiring so that it's not easier for managers to hire contractors. We also need to break the continued dependence on contractors, because it creates a vi
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee That goes into the 2,500 grievances we have on the table right now. These are not areas where we don't have the expertise in-house. These are not projects that our public servants are not prepared to deliver or perform. On the ground and in the capacity, our members are seeing co
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee Certainly, when it comes to diversity and inclusion, and making sure that there's a benefit to all populations in Canada, I do support that. I do think though that it is not going to stop contracting out. In fact, you might have what I call “tokenism”. You'll have big firms hirin
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr
Government Operations committee Of course, those are the hiring areas where we have seen a lack of stability in the public service. I'd like to counter that. This is because of years of under-resourcing and cuts that happened way before this time. With the passport situation, it's my understanding that public
October 24th, 2022Committee meeting
Jennifer Carr