Information & Ethics committee  One thing that concerns me about some of the testimony is that they say they have the software but they don't use it; they send it off to another department. If the technology exists and we don't know how it's being used, and if they don't have to disclose when and how it's being

Information & Ethics committee  That's a great question. Because of when these policies were put in place.... What is the consent? I don't think that when the original policy.... When it was just your cellphone, they would have access to whom you'd called and for how long. They haven't done it, when we're usi

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for the invitation to speak with you today. My name is Jennifer Carr, and I'm the proud president of the Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada. We represent 75,000 federal public servants and some in the provincial sphere as wel

Government Operations committee  No.

Government Operations committee  I can't say numbers. I can say that with Indigenous Services Canada in Manitoba, we have a 60% vacancy rate at the moment for nurses, and overall, it's about a 50% vacancy rate for Indigenous Services Canada. It's highly alarming the number of vacancies we have that are not being

Government Operations committee  It's basically privatizing the federal care that we give to our members in remote and isolated communities and first nations. It is a crisis. It is of its own volition too, because we are not recognizing the value that these public servants bring to the table and meeting the co

Government Operations committee  One thing is that we have to fix the Phoenix pay system. It's still a boondoggle, in my mind. We need to be able to pay fair wages. We're not looking for abundance and to be the best paid, but we need to have fair compensation. We need to have recognition that it should be th

Government Operations committee  It's very hard for us to see sometimes how much they are actually paying their IT workers. When you're talking about multinational corporations, we're not sure that even the workers they have are being paid a similar wage, especially if they're not Canadian workers. The other thi

Government Operations committee  I don't know if I can answer that question, but I can certainly get that to you after the fact. The average worker is not making that much.

Government Operations committee  Jordan, do you have the salary for the average IT worker? I think it's $76,000. Yes, I believe it's $76,000 a year.

Government Operations committee  It is. What I could say is that we have been talking about IT contracts here, but I also represent federal nurses. They are seeing an overreliance on agencies where they are getting three and a half times the amount of a public servant, have flexibility, do not go into dangerou

Government Operations committee  I can definitely talk about the morale. When you have a professional—in this case, I'll use nurses, who are fully licensed—watching an agency paramedic come in, who doesn't have any licensing but makes three times the amount they do.... Where do you go? There's the capacity to ab

Government Operations committee  There aren't any that I can think of. I'm sorry.

Government Operations committee  It is definitely a vicious cycle. It feeds on itself. If we don't invest in-house, we see federal public servants who leave to become a contractor or leave the federal public service, so it starts that whole cycle again. While our studies are on IT right now, it is the nurses...

Government Operations committee  I'm going to put that off to Jordan. I believe the answer is, no, there is not a lot, but he's my data guy. Go ahead, Jordan.