Government Operations committee  Not first-hand, but it would make sense for PCO and PMO to be informed of the intention to launch the app. Indeed, there was a community of deputy ministers and officials at all levels who were working together very intensively over that period of time: the Public Health Agency o

Government Operations committee  I believe it to be CBSA.

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry. I can't answer that question. I was assuming—and when I said “I believe”, it was on the basis of an assumption—that CBSA would own that technology because it was CBSA personnel who—

Government Operations committee  No.

Government Operations committee  I can certainly undertake to do that.

Government Operations committee  I'm sorry, sir. I'm not able to answer questions of this type because they should go to CBSA.

Government Operations committee  In my best guess on that, it was March 2020.

Government Operations committee  It would be President Ossowski and his team.

Government Operations committee  That is correct.

Government Operations committee  No, CBSA would have employed—and I believe they did employ—the services of Public Services and Procurement Canada, which has standing offers for the provision of services. They would have said, “This is what we need.” They would have gone to the PSPC department and had them prepa

Government Operations committee  No.

Government Operations committee  The president of CBSA, and CBSA as an organization, would have chosen and developed ArriveCAN as the tool. The minister had approval of the launch of the tool.

Government Operations committee  That's correct.

Government Operations committee  I don't know the answer to that, as a matter of fact. It was, in my understanding, part of a suite of digital tools the CBSA was developing with the aim of digitizing the border and better managing the border. When the pandemic arrived, I believe it was converted to the use as a

Government Operations committee  I do not believe so.