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Public Accounts committee  I'll make sure, yes.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  That is correct. They are reviewed. I have portfolio leads within OCIO who have accountability for groupings of departments so that they're able to review them not just on an individual basis but as they compare with their colleague cohort group.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  I believe it's April 6, but it might be April 3.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  I'd be happy to do that.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much for the question. The risk aversion I'm pointing to is that it is normal for organizations that are moving through modernization to learn lessons, and we are learning some lessons. What I want to avoid is our pulling back and saying we're going to stop becaus

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  I would like to talk about this for 40 minutes, but I will do it very quickly, because I know we're tight for time. We have anywhere from a 25% to a 30% vacancy rate in technical jobs in the government. That is relatively consistent, by the way, across Canada. We are seeing part

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  I think, first of all, there are funding constraints. We are trying to manage the highest risk systems within government first, and those are big, complex systems. We're talking about immigration systems. We're talking about benefits delivery systems. Those aren't things you do q

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  That's an excellent question. Thank you. I think there are things happening right now within the government in some of the committees that help manage this that are trying to move out of the way some of the systemic barriers that exist. We have things around skills and around de

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  Yes, certainly risk assessments were completed. I can confirm that, and my colleague from SSC is also confirming that. I think we're also learning about the robustness of those risk assessments as we move to the cloud: Should we ask different questions? Should we look for diffe

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  There's a cost-benefit analysis done on every project. Part of that cost-benefit analysis is what type of posting Sony provides, whether it's the cloud or the data centres. Because we are very much at the beginning of the beginning in the Government of Canada, I would say we we

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  That's fair to say.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  There are two scenarios that we would look at, and I'll turn to my colleague from SSC to complement the answer. One is that we're moving something old into the cloud. Very simply put, that would include the thing the system does and the data that allows the system to do the thin

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  If I understand your question correctly—please forgive me if I don't, and re-ask it—the benefits of having a digital service experience for Canadians could probably be best exemplified by the fact that we have Canadians who need to apply in a physical, paper format to get their p

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

Public Accounts committee  I do not know the answer to that, but I will refer back to the committee with a better answer than what I'll give you on the fly, here. Thank you. It's a good question.

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo

March 30th, 2023Committee meeting

Catherine Luelo