Public Accounts committee  I'm going to take a guess here, because this was before my time, but I'll look at my colleagues and I'll look at Dr. Wong. It was not a decision made on a day; it was a gradual inclination by first nations wanting to reduce the silos of various program entities and wanting more

Public Accounts committee  I'll repeat that there was not a time and a date when a decision was made. I would say that we do have environmental protection health officers who go in and provide testing, and they provide first nations with reports upon first nations' requests. We actually make active offers

Public Accounts committee  She felt the same way I did. We are carrying out consultations on infrastructure modernization. I can ask Mr. Barbosa to explain it quickly.

Public Accounts committee  That's a great question. They are engaged to varying extents, certainly, when it comes to roads and winter roads. We have many conversations with our partners, but maybe I'll check with Joanne to see if there's anything in particular.

Public Accounts committee  It's a very regionally based approach. When it comes to things like filling out applications, there are no applications from six out of 10 provinces in our sphere. It's people working with people and committees. Regional funding formulas and regional decisions are made in partn

Public Accounts committee  I'll let my colleague talk a little bit about what we have identified in our departmental performance reports for outcomes.

Public Accounts committee  I mentioned earlier that we invested $223 million in housing managers, but more work is still needed here. There was also additional funding provided for training certification and ensuring that those housing managers had the capacity to manage housing on reserve, technical capac

Public Accounts committee  The outcome for housing has been 34,000 houses built, but I get what you're saying. I understand the complexities in all of this. I'll ask Nelson to reply.

Public Accounts committee  Thank you very much. It has been about a year and a half that I have been in the position, but I certainly appreciate the question. As I said, I am open to transformations. For example, I have great admiration for the efforts deployed by chief Lance Hayman and the Native Commer

Public Accounts committee  Mr. Chair, we are certainly not taking the position to transfer programs and services if first nations are not well equipped, well supported and well funded to do so.

Public Accounts committee  In this large country of Canada, which has many aspects of difficult weather that impact its housing stock, the issue of mould is more prominent in first nations communities due to the significant overcrowding that exists, as well as the harsh weather, particularly in remote and

Public Accounts committee  Let me get that data for you.

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry?

Public Accounts committee  I would say that with our funding services officers who liaise quite daily with first nation communities, along with our regional housing managers and regional infrastructure staff, we're looking at a daily ongoing engagement. It is quite fluid, but that's very close.

Public Accounts committee  That's an institution I'd be more than willing to hear more about. I'm not aware of the particular agency that—