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Procedure and House Affairs committee  It could be, at the end of the day, enormously important and significant in a total picture. In and of itself, it gives you an indication of something that might happen or that maybe is happening or maybe is not. As I said, it's an art, not a science.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's right in that you have to see the totality of anything that came before it and what continues to be collected. That credibility is part of how the agencies determine, with limited resources, whether they are going to continue down this particular thread of investigation an

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm not sure I actually understood the question. I apologize.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have a couple of things I'd like to say.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  The Prime Minister was not provided that information. This isn't question period, so the conclusion that you drew is political; it's not based in fact. The Prime Minister wasn't provided the information.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think it's an indictment of the process—

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  When political conversations are occurring, I am not generally in the room.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, that's my understanding.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That is correct. There is no doubt the information that was provided to Mr. Chong is disturbing, but there was no action taken.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  CSIS should have briefed him, yes, probably, and there was a role for the deputy minister in there.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I can log into the secret network, but I don't log into the top secret network. Top secret material is provided to me by what we call a CRO, a client relations officer, from CSE.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. When we receive raw intelligence from any of the agencies, they normally tell us a range of things about the credibility or the soundness of the report.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It allows us to draw conclusions about whether something is actionable, whether we need to wait for more information, and how we should assess what we are reading. If it's a single source or it's not a credible source or there's no further intelligence about a particular element

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas

Procedure and House Affairs committee  The way I heard your characterization was that they simply didn't have a log-in and, therefore, did not access the system. They don't have access to the top secret network. The material is printed and provided to them as is appropriate.

June 1st, 2023Committee meeting

Jody Thomas