Information & Ethics committee  Thank you for the question. I would say that our challenge with staffing is definitely a big one for the ATIP shop itself in terms of keeping the numbers of staff high enough and the experience needed to get people to the level to provide the advice function. Similar to what th

Information & Ethics committee  I'm not aware of any for GAC.

Information & Ethics committee  We do at GAC. I would say it's between an average of maybe eight to 10 contractors who also work directly in our ATIP division.

Information & Ethics committee  It's from a total of...fully staffed, we would be at 69, but at the moment, I think we have 41 or 42 indeterminate staff. It's 42.

Information & Ethics committee  Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  All are with firms. Yes.

Information & Ethics committee  Could you tell us offhand, Alexandre?

Information & Ethics committee  It's around five for GAC.

Information & Ethics committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to thank the committee for the invitation today and for undertaking a study on the access to information and privacy system. Global Affairs Canada works closely with the Treasury Board Secretariat, the Office of the Information Commissioner, a