Public Safety committee  Right. If this model that you're speaking of, the 800, is virtually identical, then we would be using the original design specs—the original.

Public Safety committee  I think hanging on your words of “virtually identical” is a bit of a challenge, because then I would say, if I take that at face value, that there's not a new design here, so it doesn't meet test (iii). I think that's the best I can do in a hypothetical situation. Again, it comes back to the determination of whether or not this is actually a new design post this coming into force.

Public Safety committee  The issue in test (iii) is “originally designed”, right? I'm referring, then, to the opposite of that.

Public Safety committee  It could be that. I mean, it would have to take in a number of different criteria. I gave some examples of the mechanical operation. It could be other things. It could be the size of the change in the frame size as well, the receiver frame size. That could have an impact as well that would precipitate potentially looking at it as a new design.

Public Safety committee  Or a design, yes...we would follow up.

Public Safety committee  Sorry, could you repeat that? It would meet the test of...?

Public Safety committee  Maybe I'll take a shot. Can I just step back to the question? Existing makes and models, your 700s, are not affected by this definition. They are currently in the market. They were previously designed. They were previously manufactured. They will continue to exist and not be touched by that definition.

Public Safety committee  Now we move to the 800 model, and you mentioned that it's built on the same—

Public Safety committee  If there's not a material change in the design.... Again, I'm going to be hypothetical here, but let's predicate it on the fact that it's based on how the manufacturer comes out and markets that new model. Is it defining it in any different way? Are there improvements being made?

Public Safety committee  I know, but the reality—

Public Safety committee  It has to be a material change—

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  I think that's probably a question for the Canadian firearms program. We have confidence that with that additional list in schedule 2 it meets the main criteria from May 1, which, again, was semi-automatic sustained rapid fire, of military or tactical design, and capable of accepting a large-capacity magazine.

Public Safety committee  Just to clarify with a quick answer, yes, it does apply to individuals with a possession and acquisition licence with restricted privileges. It also applies, though, to people who have possession and acquisition licences, so it's both. It's not just exclusive. Anybody who has a firearms licence is run through those same processes.

Public Safety committee  If I may...?