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Information & Ethics committee  I don't think I can say anything about that just because, as Ms. Lim said, there is no causation involved in this. I think it was just as strong during the Conservative times of Prime Minister Harper. However, just because it has increased in the last seven years doesn't mean it

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, it just happened to coincide.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, Beijing has been doing that all over the world, and Canada is no exception. I point to Australia, our cousin, a country of basically very similar size, population and demographics. China has been working on Australia for many years. Australia stood up, first by having very

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  Yes, I think so. I think a former prime minister of Australia mentioned just a week ago on TV that all you need is sunshine, to shine a light on these things in the public mode. It not only helps us look at these things, but it also tells China that they cannot go under the table

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  For one, China has become more sophisticated, more subtle. In the early efforts, China was seen as kind of bumbling in many ways and perhaps not taken seriously by our elected officials or law enforcement, but China has now upped their game, if you will, in such a way that many o

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  Yes. It's the court report.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  Very commonly known. In fact, we've been saying it all along for the last 15 or 20 years. We've seen a lot of this on the ground, obviously, and many of these have not been reported, or if they were reported to the local police or the RCMP, they will not be handled because there'

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  I'm not sure. We have not gotten any acknowledgement, so far. Normally, when you write a letter to an MP or to a minister, you at least get acknowledgement saying we received your letter and we'll pass it along to somebody else. We did not even get these letters.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  First of all, we sent it to GAC and then, of course, to the RCMP. The RCMP is the primary one that we are trying to deal with.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  I believe we had copied some ministers. I don't remember who exactly was copied.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  If I can find it, yes.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  These tactics have been used in a great many other countries. I believe they have identified 100 stations around the world, of which Canada has five or six, I believe, three in Toronto and now two in Montreal and one in Vancouver.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  Right. The report was issued by Safeguard Defenders. It is a Spanish organization. I know that China has very similar, in fact more severe, operations in Australia, in Spain, and in many other European countries, and, of course, in other non-European countries as well.

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  I can share with you two highly suspected cases of electoral influencing. In Kenny Chiu's riding, the Conservative MP lost his seat because he was the one who had a private member's bill on the foreign agent registry. The second riding of which we are very highly suspicious is Bo

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan

Information & Ethics committee  I would say that “abandoning” is a very strong word. I would say “ignore” is a better word to describe that kind of thing. For many years we've been shouting the same messages. Even back in 2006 when I presented to this committee, we basically said that China controls everything

March 10th, 2023Committee meeting

Cheuk Kwan