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Information & Ethics committee I'm trying to be helpful to the committee, Mr. Chair.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee You may be debating a distinction without a difference. I don't have private records. I retained some PCO records relative to my function as clerk. They are the records that were provided to the Commissioner of Lobbying or to the Ethics Commissioner. These will be PCO records.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee I would suggest that the clerk would want to review some of these, because some of them involve confidences and they're marked with “solicitor-client” or “commercially sensitive” or “secret” or whatnot. She will have to wade through those issues on behalf of the committee.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee It's up to you.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee I've had no communications with any of those companies since leaving government, so it would be an empty file.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee No, I'm always trying to be helpful to the committee. I have no objection to producing what I have. I can tell the committee, if this would be useful, that there was an inquiry by the Commissioner of Lobbying during the same period—it started in March 2019 and concluded in Novem
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee Yes. I mean, I'm not a lawyer. My understanding is that you always have a referee: the Federal Court and the Supreme Court Some issues on redaction, disclosure and withholding have gone to the Federal Court and even to the Supreme Court.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee There had been statements by the company on market disclosures, and there had been representations by the company, which are on the record.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee She was the Minister of Justice during that period, from December 18 until early January, when there was a cabinet shuffle. The cabinet shuffle was created by Mr. Brison's leaving cabinet and led to a number of moves, of which she was one. She remained a member of cabinet and she
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee That would have been a couple of weeks later, I believe.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee In 2024?
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee I certainly hope so.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee No, and we have a very healthy set of feedback loops and accountability tools in Canada. I'll venture out and point you to the ArriveCAN issue, which has blown up in the last little while. We have a parliamentary committee at work. We have at least three—I think it's four—offic
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee Well, as I said to Mr. Green, I think there is some redrafting and clarification that could be put into the provisions around deferred prosecution agreements, because it will come up again, and, as I think I said at a previous appearance at this committee, I would like to see pro
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick
Information & Ethics committee I'm sorry. I didn't hear that.
March 19th, 2024Committee meeting
Michael Wernick