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Science and Research committee  Thank you for the question. I think some of the progress that's being made and that we've seen is particularly in regard to using data and turning it into IP for tech, for example. Local indigenous governments and regional institutions like the Assembly of First Nations, Chiefs of Ontario and the First Nations Information Governance Centre have really come together and put forward a lot of policies, principles and practices around indigenous data and how that is collected and used.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  Yes. I think what they've done is just like our first nation governance information centre that we have. It created an outline and a framework around how the ownership, possession and control of indigenous knowledge and indigenous data are used. There are different approaches in different parts of the world.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  Additional funding would be welcome. We have, as an organization, received funding to help us support youth summer learners, and that is it from the federal government. The rest has been done through the private sector and volunteers. Additional work is needed. Coordination around the topic of commercializing and making money off traditional knowledge is something that I think needs to be supported, and I believe that it is under way.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  Thank you for that question. We are looking at IP, and I was talking about the Indigenous Institutes sector. We heard earlier in the meeting about universities and colleges, and those would be an indigenous representation of that, which we currently have. We have nine of them in Ontario.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  I can think of an example rom the technology perspective in regard to representation of indigenous culture and expressions in video games. How is the money from that game made off that cultural expression, and where does the wealth model go from that knowledge that's used? That may be an example of an indigenous game designer who's going forward to include those aspects of knowledge in their game that they then share with the world.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  Thank you. To answer that question, I think we need to look at a process around co-creation and collective ownership in IP. For example, if an indigenous person's company is creating a product that has an indigenous knowledge base in it, who owns that portion of knowledge and how is the commercialization of that knowledge giving back to the indigenous community that has the collective ownership?

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  Thank you for that question. I think more investment is needed in the indigenous innovation space. A lot of this work that we've been undertaking at the Centre for Indigenous Innovation and Technology has been undertaken with the private sector. A lot of the work has been done through volunteers like myself.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  We were able to do a panel with youth and young professionals. One of the things we talked about and focused on was gaming and entertainment in digital media and how an indigenous community would be represented in those media. That's an example that was brought up in the discussion.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  Thank you for the question. Open government, in this context, is looking at having transparency available to work with first nation governments, for example, and being transparent and open around what the goals are. For example, there were open data initiatives that the government had put out that sometimes conflicted with indigenous sovereignty.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman

Science and Research committee  [Witness spoke in Ojibwa and provided the following text:] Boozhoo aanii, Jarret Leaman ndishnikaaz Magnetawan First Nation nidoonjibaa (Niizh manidoowag). [English] Hello, everyone. My name is Jarret Leaman, and I am a member of Magnetawan First Nation, located in southern Ontario, out in the Muskoka region.

April 25th, 2023Committee meeting

Jarret Leaman